n_iulian 1,366 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Octa-core = mai mult lag sunt rau... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silviu S 618 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 pai daca ei zic ca 85% din app folosesc abia 2 core ei ce cauta la quad, de ce nu fac 2 foarte rapide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Innoxius 21,559 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Consum. Implicit caldura. Un quad de x giga consuma mai putin decat un dual de 2x giga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mihnea 2,508 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Eu nu vreau sa aflu cat de tare se va incalzi acest chipset cu 8 nuclee care lucreaza la ~2GHZ. Daca pe S4 Octa faci omleta, pe acesta merge un miel la protap. Sent from my Nexusâ´ 2 ionel and Silviu S reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mihnea 2,508 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Consum. Implicit caldura. Un quad de x giga consuma mai putin decat un dual de 2x gigaConteaza arhitectura si procesul de fabticatie. Intr-un nucleu cu frecventa crescuta intra mai multi mV. Acesti mV x2 consuma mai putin decat decat mai putin x4. S4 Pro are cam 240mV pe nucleu la 1.5 GHZ. 240x4> sa zicem 330x2. Tu ai dreptate cand spui de frecventa dubla, dar momentan nu se poate sa ajunga la vreo 3GHZ. Eu am vorbit pe lucruri reale.Sent from my Nexusâ´ Edited August 30, 2013 by Mihnea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silviu S 618 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Ne agitam noi degeaba daca e util sau nu , cand quad nu o sa mai vanda o sa apara 8 core .Interesant e ce o sa urmeze apoi ca parca 16 suna ca dracu...poate o sa umble si eu unde doare cu adevarat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Innoxius 21,559 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Asta la incarcare maxima, la nivel teoretic, daca vorbim strict de procesor. Dar, daca aplicatia care il foloseste e optimizata pentru quad, procesorul va consuma mai putin decat aceeasi aplicatie optimizata pentru dual, asta la o aceeasi user-experience. Sa nu uitam ca, pana la urma, ne intereseaza finalul, care final este user + aplicatie. La user n-au ce umbla, asa ca raman aplicatiile. In alta ordine de idei, o aplicatie optimizata pentru dual va merge mai bine pe quad, cu consum mai mic. Problema care se pune e ca castigul este mai mic decat banii pe care ii dam in plus. Tocmai pentru ca nu este optimizata pentru quad. Conteaza arhitectura si procesul de fabticatie. Intr-un nucleu cu frecventa crescuta intra mai multi mV. Acesti mV x2 consuma mai putin decat decat mai putin x4. S4 Pro are cam 240mV pe nucleu la 1.5 GHZ. 240x4> sa zicem 330x2. Tu ai dreptate cand spui de frecventa dubla, dar momentan nu se poate sa ajunga la vreo 3GHZ. Eu am vorbit pe lucruri reale.Sent from my Nexusâ´ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleEx 12 Report post Posted September 3, 2013 Daca mediatek a anuntat asa ceva va dati seama ca vin noi allview-uri p5 octa/p6 octa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silviu S 618 Report post Posted September 3, 2013 allview viper v8 (16 supape ) 3 Szilárd Ervin Szőgyenyi, Innoxius and ionel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samyjuanito 980 Report post Posted September 3, 2013 Da! Dar fără admisie variabila, tot degeaba. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 4 2 ionel and Innoxius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silviu S 618 Report post Posted September 3, 2013 e romanesc, tu acum ce vrei audi a8 2 Innoxius and samyjuanito reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bogdan@GiZ 179 Report post Posted September 10, 2013 Samsung promite Heterogeneous Multi-Processing pentru Exynos Octa - toate nucleele vor functiona simultan "HMP is the most powerful use model for ARM big.LITTLE technology, as it enables the use of all physical cores at the same time. " "The HMP solution for Samsung’s Exynos 5 Octa application processors will be available to customers in 4Q of 2013." http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=28140 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deio Report post Posted September 10, 2013 E praf in ochii lumii. Doua procesoare SoC, au doua module grafice distincte, nu le poate pune in SLI ca la desktop sa conlucreze, iar in jocuri nu ai nevoie de procesare MIPS ci FLOPS, lucru de care un modul grafic are din belsug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bogdan@GiZ 179 Report post Posted October 18, 2013 MediaTek MT6592 octa-core in AnTuTu http://www.gsmarena.com/mediatek_mt6589_octacore_cpu_gets_benchmarked-news-6997.php Samsung ar putea folosi procesoare octa-core MediaTek in 2014 http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/03/report-samsung-to-use-quad-and-octa-core-mediatek-processors-in-2014/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deio Report post Posted October 18, 2013 Am impresia ca Samsung ii vor cumpara pe Mediatek, pentru ca momentan au parteneriat pe segmentul low-cost si se poate ca in viitor Samsung sa isi faca propria linie de procesoare low-cost si sa pastreze Exynos pe segmentul high-end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bogdan@GiZ 179 Report post Posted October 19, 2013 UMI X2S - primul telefon cu MediaTek MT6592 World’s First “Real†Octa Core Smartphone Goes Official – UMI X2S With MT6592 Processor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silviu S 618 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 Ce seamana a samsung. Asta cu true octacore seamana cu o faza asemanatoare de la amd cu quadul lor care desi era true tot il batea intel la greu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deio Report post Posted October 20, 2013 AMD are octa-core, am un CPU de la ei sample, FX9590, are 220W si 5GHz frecventa la 8 nuclee. Cu toate astea, head to head, Haswell 4770K il depaseste destul de mult in majoritatea operatiilor. 4770k e 89W si 3.5GHz frecventa cu 4 nuclee doar + 4 HT (hyperthreading). Pretul e ~ identic. Octa-ul AMD e bun in decodari video, unde cele 8 nuclee reale il ajuta, desi nu cu mult. La AMD stagiile si controllerul RAM sunt ineficiente. Racirea e groaznica, i-am pus un Corsair H80 la 9590 si e fierbinte. Iar la 4770k merge impecabil cu coolerul din cutie care costa 5$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mihnea 2,508 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) E bine ca au rezolvat problema coolerului stock. Stiu ca la generatia allla de I7 si I5 coolerele venite la pachet erau o gluma proasta. Cam slabut acest Octa Core. In mare parte se va comporta ca un QC Cortex A7. Aplicatiile nu stiu sa foloseasca mai mult de 4 nuclee, iar daca are si un GPU slab.... Sent from my GT-P7300 using Tapatalk Edited October 20, 2013 by Mihnea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bogdan@GiZ 179 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 Specificatii pentru Mediatek MT6592 CPU cu opt nuclee tactate intre 1,7 si 2 GHz GPU Mali450-MP4 700MHz http://www.gizchina.com/2013/10/27/mediatek-mt6592-mt6588-full-specifications-leaked-ahead-november-launch/ se anunta un val de telefoane octa-core din China http://www.gizchina.com/2013/10/28/mlais-pro-8-core-mt6592-galaxy-note-3-clone/ http://www.gizchina.com/2013/10/30/8-core-mlais-mx69-will-available-november-photos-full-specifications/ http://www.gizchina.com/2013/10/30/render-shows-flagship-8-core-mt6592-tcl-mystery-phone/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deio Report post Posted October 31, 2013 Am incurcat-o, vin chinezii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
